That's probably my last open baffle mid. I was extremely disappointed at how much the room placement impacted the mids. I contemplated building an enclosure for the mids after the show. They sound good in my room at home so I'm done with these. I've learned my lesson.
None of my dabbling with open baffle have inspired me to get serious about it over closed/box designs - just lacks too much in the dynamics/loudness department.
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That's probably my last open baffle mid. I was extremely disappointed at how much the room placement impacted the mids. I contemplated building an enclosure for the mids after the show. They sound good in my room at home so I'm done with these. I've learned my lesson.
I’ve been a fan of ~open back. Attenuates both back pressure (rebound back thru cone), and a bit of rear signal absorption. Give it a go on your design?
I'm curious what does the impedance plot look like on that speaker?
Me too ! ???
Sorry, as a iMac guy the DATS V3 is not happening with non-dos. I just work with measuring frequency sweeps - and with my eq overlay the at speaker and listening position it works great.
Generally front vs rear looks like:
edit: fyi this is a coax I employ as a mid+ in a 3way design
I ordered a pair this morning. The plan is for them to be an upgrade in my Omni/OB project. They should fit perfectly into the existing enclosures with just a slight change in port length. Thanks for pointing them out. I probably would have otherwise missed them. With the extra 15% off the pair shipped to my door was only $57.00! We spend that much on a couple of carry out pizzas 😁
Has anyone used UPS for delivery to U.S. from Solen?
I've used Canada Post in the past as the lowest cost and no brokerage fees. Since Canada Post is currently on strike, that shipping method isn't available right now, which leaves UPS as the lowest cost alternative. But based on some "warning" language on Solen's shipping page, I'm concerned that UPS may apply substantial brokerage fees that will eliminate the savings on a Deal/NoDeal purchase.
Packages valued below $800 into U.S. are exempt from any customs fees, so there is essentially no "brokering" for UPS to do, but that may not stop them from unilaterally applying arbitrary fees. I've been burned by similar FedEx fees in the past, so any direct Solen/UPS experience anyone can share would be helpful.
I can only comment on UPS from US into Canada and they seem to really hammer Canadians with brokerage fees. However, Canadians can get around them by paying the taxes directly to a customs office, thereby clearing the package themselves. With that in mind, since there should be no import taxes from Canada to US, there's nothing for them to clear and it should be brokerage free.
As already mentioned above CSS has their black friday sale going on. I wanted to give a shout out to their LD22 tweeters. They sound wonderful and are a steal at the sale price. If you need a small format dome tweeter for a small 2 way or for the top of a 3 way I don't think there is a better tweeter than them.
Can't say I have not thought about it. They sounded great in Todd/flipsnshyt's towers in August. Look funny a bit in long throw though, getting narrower under longer forward throws.
However, since I jumped on the October sale at Solen for the E160CF8, I likely should not.
Considered one of the SB berylliums but just cant bring self to drop the money - any familiarity with the the lower priced small format one?
Really want a 3d printer (thinking Bambu Lab P1S)
Is a 2.5 way 'wasteful'? I generally like 3 ways, but seeing the titan 6 on sale, own set of titan 7's and the 27tac. Consider chamber for 6 and tweet, minimal baffle comp, just get proper mid band respond then the 7 in own chamber to boost the low end. Again something I could just do 'someday' and no need to burn money
Cyber Monday sucking b**** - I've not been compelled to buy anything, except some stuff from Mouser, which never on sale, to build some things with all the PTO I'm using this month. Ha, proud of myself.
At least going well for company I work for (ecommerce systems coder) which impacts incentive comp
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That's probably my last open baffle mid. I was extremely disappointed at how much the room placement impacted the mids. I contemplated building an enclosure for the mids after the show. They sound good in my room at home so I'm done with these. I've learned my lesson.
None of my dabbling with open baffle have inspired me to get serious about it over closed/box designs - just lacks too much in the dynamics/loudness department.
I’ve been a fan of ~open back. Attenuates both back pressure (rebound back thru cone), and a bit of rear signal absorption. Give it a go on your design?

I'm curious what does the impedance plot look like on that speaker?
For those wanting Siggy 180s...
These popped up as buyouts. Funny how the Qms is higher more like my measured results.
https://www.parts-express.com/6.5-Aluminum-Cone-Woofer-Truncated-Frame-80W-4-Ohm-299-2129?quantity=1
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Me too ! ???
Sorry, as a iMac guy the DATS V3 is not happening with non-dos. I just work with measuring frequency sweeps - and with my eq overlay the at speaker and listening position it works great.
Generally front vs rear looks like:

edit: fyi this is a coax I employ as a mid+ in a 3way design
I ordered a pair this morning. The plan is for them to be an upgrade in my Omni/OB project. They should fit perfectly into the existing enclosures with just a slight change in port length. Thanks for pointing them out. I probably would have otherwise missed them. With the extra 15% off the pair shipped to my door was only $57.00! We spend that much on a couple of carry out pizzas 😁
RPB posted it over on PETT, or I would've missed them as well.
I figured they would fit a niche somewhere. You are welcome!
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Has anyone used UPS for delivery to U.S. from Solen?
I've used Canada Post in the past as the lowest cost and no brokerage fees. Since Canada Post is currently on strike, that shipping method isn't available right now, which leaves UPS as the lowest cost alternative. But based on some "warning" language on Solen's shipping page, I'm concerned that UPS may apply substantial brokerage fees that will eliminate the savings on a Deal/NoDeal purchase.
Packages valued below $800 into U.S. are exempt from any customs fees, so there is essentially no "brokering" for UPS to do, but that may not stop them from unilaterally applying arbitrary fees. I've been burned by similar FedEx fees in the past, so any direct Solen/UPS experience anyone can share would be helpful.
I can only comment on UPS from US into Canada and they seem to really hammer Canadians with brokerage fees. However, Canadians can get around them by paying the taxes directly to a customs office, thereby clearing the package themselves. With that in mind, since there should be no import taxes from Canada to US, there's nothing for them to clear and it should be brokerage free.
I have ordered from Solen once. Don't remember the carrier, but normal shipping charge and no other fees after the fact.
CSS drivers are on sale through the 2nd.
Protect your drivers from finish marring by screw heads --> https://www.amazon.com/black-nylon-washer/s?k=black+nylon+washer
I just got a delivery from Solen. Shipped UPS and got here to New Mexico in 3 days.
@rjj45: and no fees other than the original shipping charge from Solen?
No, no extra fees other than $98 (CA) shipping
They shipped 3 day UPS.
As already mentioned above CSS has their black friday sale going on. I wanted to give a shout out to their LD22 tweeters. They sound wonderful and are a steal at the sale price. If you need a small format dome tweeter for a small 2 way or for the top of a 3 way I don't think there is a better tweeter than them.
Madisound unleashed some things into special section... digesting still. https://www.madisoundspeakerstore.com/specials/
Ooh yeah the SB26ADC for $35.
ESS sale 10s and 12s
https://essspeakers.store/?_kx=fR4L5_2umXXlJyJRVlZSKPIHJy0Pj5c_cZR0gi2vQ5o.TmfZ4c
I like the Satori MW13P-4 5" at Madisound for $99
The "goat-eye" (square) SS Illuminator TPCD tweeter is on sale too. Still too rich for my blood.
https://www.madisoundspeakerstore.com/tweeters/scan-speak-illuminator-d3004/6062-00-tpcd-textreme-dome-tweeter/
The U16 is on sale for $89, which is higher than it likely used to be but great at -40 claims.
https://www.madisoundspeakerstore.com/approx-6-7-woofers/seas-prestige-u16rcy/p-h1520-08-6-curv-cone-woofer/
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That tpcd looks like a beast. Wonder how it sounds?
There is a Dickason test bench for it...
https://audioxpress.com/article/test-bench-scan-speak-d3004-606200-tweeter-from-its-illuminator-line
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I just ordered a pair of the SB racetrack woofers from Madisound. Cant beat the $34 price to give them a shot.
Can't say I have not thought about it. They sounded great in Todd/flipsnshyt's towers in August. Look funny a bit in long throw though, getting narrower under longer forward throws.
However, since I jumped on the October sale at Solen for the E160CF8, I likely should not.
InDIYana Event Website
Considered one of the SB berylliums but just cant bring self to drop the money - any familiarity with the the lower priced small format one?
Really want a 3d printer (thinking Bambu Lab P1S)
Is a 2.5 way 'wasteful'? I generally like 3 ways, but seeing the titan 6 on sale, own set of titan 7's and the 27tac. Consider chamber for 6 and tweet, minimal baffle comp, just get proper mid band respond then the 7 in own chamber to boost the low end. Again something I could just do 'someday' and no need to burn money
Menards:
Typical thick glass bar/restaurant style. Stock you home pub then buy shelving boards with the rebate!
DAW plug-in's on Sale --> https://www.waves.com/specials#sort:path~type~order=.default-order~number~asc|views:view=grid-view|paging:currentPage=0|paging:number=18
This one was brought to my attention (but I would rather learn how to use a compressor more effectively) --> https://www.waves.com/plugins/idx-intelligent-dynamics
Cyber Monday sucking b**** - I've not been compelled to buy anything, except some stuff from Mouser, which never on sale, to build some things with all the PTO I'm using this month. Ha, proud of myself.
At least going well for company I work for (ecommerce systems coder) which impacts incentive comp