Not a Deal of the Day, but Sweetwater has the Behringer ECM8000 microphone for $19.90 + free shipping. (Not currently in Stock, but you can still order it. I did this a few years ago when they were listed for $29 and temporarily out of stock.) Note, this mic does NOT have a calibration file, but you could have someone with a calibrated mic make one for you (either shipping it back and forth or lending it to them if they are local). Anyways, just mentioning it, because anyone thinking of switching to an XLR mic, this is ridiculously cheap.
More stuff on sale at Madisound as of the 18th. New stuff is still fairly pricey, except for the Silver Flute woofer. The Satori coax is the one that caught my eye though...I have a thing for coaxes.
How do you deal with the tweeter dip at 9k - hte 30deg response looks beeter - no shapr dip? Also the tweeter FS is 1200 - can it be crossed at 2.5k as the woofer is already starting it's break up - maybe push to 2.8-3k?
Haven't worked with coax - are there slightly different expectation regarding rule of thumb / XO points?
As with most, there's compromises. Might have to comp the tweet FS, listen a little off axis, keep the woofer breakup in check.
It's kinda like looking at AMT responses, they sometimes look wonky, but in reality, sound fine. You can't always get all caught up in the squiggly lines.
That 9k dip is most likely a cancelation artifact and will be gone in the listening position. I wouldn't worry about it.
You get to decide what sounds better a stressed tweeter or cone breakup. Seeing how efficient those drivers are you will probably have plenty of output before it is problematic.
@ani_101 said:
How do you deal with the tweeter dip at 9k - hte 30deg response looks beeter - no shapr dip? Also the tweeter FS is 1200 - can it be crossed at 2.5k as the woofer is already starting it's break up - maybe push to 2.8-3k?
Haven't worked with coax - are there slightly different expectation regarding rule of thumb / XO points?
I would probably design for the best overall compromise when listening at about 30 degrees off-axis (both speakers facing straight forward, not toed in to the listening position). Before starting the design, I'd probably do a complete set of polar measurements on my personal baffle board to verify the curves and generate average power response sims. Remember, these curves were generated with the driver mounted on a large IEC baffle and a smaller baffle with roundovers will significantly impact the diffraction signature.
Not all coaxes are created equal.
Keith Etheredge had his Celestion coaxes with rear tacked on through horns. They sounded better straight forward.
My Monoculus sounds better toed in like normal.
Mofi 888 sound better with toe in to me.
Drivers, summation, etc matter in these instances.
Handy for when I need to abuse a bit.. pretty much any time the drill comes out. I'm always snapping the little ones. And in this set they put higher quantities the smaller the bit is. I guess the sale and/or rebate ends tomorrow though.
@Eggguy said:
Thanks. I was hoping to see if or where 3rd ord is dominant but you don't always get what you want.
I have these. If I remember tomorrow, I can send you my measurements. I had them crossed at 300 and 3000 hz. They have stupid low distortion at very high volume.
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3rd Order sounds odd to me. Get it?
(Throws egg) Groan....
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Acurus amp, good price.
https://www.usaudiomart.com/details/650164429-acurus-a-250/?utm_source=USAudioMart+list&utm_medium=email&utm_content=email+featured+ad&utm_campaign=email-featured-ad-click&utm_term=650164429
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Madisound . . .
LOL seller name started with Wolf, thought it was you for a sec until I saw the location
Yeah, not mine as I don't even own one.
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That bears a LOT of resemblance to my 3X100. Also FS, BTW.
Not a Deal of the Day, but Sweetwater has the Behringer ECM8000 microphone for $19.90 + free shipping. (Not currently in Stock, but you can still order it. I did this a few years ago when they were listed for $29 and temporarily out of stock.) Note, this mic does NOT have a calibration file, but you could have someone with a calibrated mic make one for you (either shipping it back and forth or lending it to them if they are local). Anyways, just mentioning it, because anyone thinking of switching to an XLR mic, this is ridiculously cheap.
Madison has a few more drivers on sale including Satori 5" for $100 or so.
Looks like the shelving boards realy are back on sale. Until the end of the month.
https://menards.com/main/storage-organization/shelves-shelving-units/shelving-boards/dakota-trade-unfinished-square-edge-shelf/shelf34117596/p-1444428261648-c-5702.htm
Awsome! Thanks for sharing.
More stuff on sale at Madisound as of the 18th. New stuff is still fairly pricey, except for the Silver Flute woofer. The Satori coax is the one that caught my eye though...I have a thing for coaxes.
https://www.madisoundspeakerstore.com/specials/madisound-2024-holiday-sale/
My cart at Madi is overflowing. PE isn't much better. Someone send help?
That Satori coax is freaking gorgeous😍
How do you deal with the tweeter dip at 9k - hte 30deg response looks beeter - no shapr dip? Also the tweeter FS is 1200 - can it be crossed at 2.5k as the woofer is already starting it's break up - maybe push to 2.8-3k?
Haven't worked with coax - are there slightly different expectation regarding rule of thumb / XO points?
As with most, there's compromises. Might have to comp the tweet FS, listen a little off axis, keep the woofer breakup in check.
It's kinda like looking at AMT responses, they sometimes look wonky, but in reality, sound fine. You can't always get all caught up in the squiggly lines.
Something doesn't look right ...
Its held together through the pole piece and I agree - it looks totally wrong.
That 9k dip is most likely a cancelation artifact and will be gone in the listening position. I wouldn't worry about it.
You get to decide what sounds better a stressed tweeter or cone breakup. Seeing how efficient those drivers are you will probably have plenty of output before it is problematic.
I would probably design for the best overall compromise when listening at about 30 degrees off-axis (both speakers facing straight forward, not toed in to the listening position). Before starting the design, I'd probably do a complete set of polar measurements on my personal baffle board to verify the curves and generate average power response sims. Remember, these curves were generated with the driver mounted on a large IEC baffle and a smaller baffle with roundovers will significantly impact the diffraction signature.
Not all coaxes are created equal.
Keith Etheredge had his Celestion coaxes with rear tacked on through horns. They sounded better straight forward.
My Monoculus sounds better toed in like normal.
Mofi 888 sound better with toe in to me.
Drivers, summation, etc matter in these instances.
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Doesn't seem to be an impluse buy right now....!
Handy for when I need to abuse a bit.. pretty much any time the drill comes out. I'm always snapping the little ones. And in this set they put higher quantities the smaller the bit is. I guess the sale and/or rebate ends tomorrow though.
That's a great deal. I'm not crazy about their mail in rebate deal but for this it's totally worth it.
I have these. If I remember tomorrow, I can send you my measurements. I had them crossed at 300 and 3000 hz. They have stupid low distortion at very high volume.
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I don't always appreciate, but when I don't, I wish I had.
Most people are like this ^.
Regretful . . .
PE has New Year's sitewide discount currently. Good time to land some RS drivers since most of them are on sale at the moment.
No, I forgot! I will see if I can dig them up tonight.