Is this significantly different than the regular truncated frame 6" nomex? I thought this was more of a cosmetic difference as this seems to the odd one out with the silver frame and phase plug.
@ani_101 said:
Is this significantly different than the regular truncated frame 6" nomex? I thought this was more of a cosmetic difference as this seems to the odd one out with the silver frame and phase plug.
It has more copper in the motor, probably "the best" of the Peerless HDS as measured by many.
= Howard Stark: "This is the key to the future. I'm limited by the technology of my time, but one day you'll figure this out."
Indeed, the motor is much improved, it's not just cosmetic difference, the "exclusive" line were the top end of Peerless back in the day, there was an 8" and a 4" as well, but today the 6.5" is the only one that remains. I've a feeling they won't last much longer either, so get a pair while you still can!
The only issue that might concern me is the blip in the response (frequency and impedance) right around 1 KHz which could be a cone-edge resonance. On the other hand that's not unique and other drivers (e.g. Seas U16RCY/P) exhibit the same thing. Would be informative to a harmonic distortion plot. Otherwise it looks very nice. Note: this opinion is worth the paper its not printed on.
You could be really daring - consider the Dynavox LY302F. Measurements look very promising. I have to admit - it's downright ugly! It's been on my radar for a while now, but I just can't justify buying any more drivers until I clear some space on the shelf.
The M11 is a good driver, it's properly a Vifa M11, I don't believe these ever sold under the Scan-Speak branding, anyway, while the response looks great, it doesn't have quite the motor quality of the Vifa NE.
I don't think the LY302F looks ugly apart from the whizzer cone. I saw some measurements of it recently, Facebook maybe, and it tested well but I'd still pick Vifa TC9/TG9 over it for a small full range.
Why is every aluminum basket SB driver from 3" to 5" $50 (excluding ceramic/kevlar). Its strange to have the same pricepoint because if im paying the same amount i would rather have the larger driver.
That looks like the driver from my old Logitech speakers I had in my teenage years. Lots of bass for the size, I had problems with it yanking the voice coil leads right off the terminals...
The Anarchy seems more out of stock than in... But yes the Anarchy is good. In the 5" one the TB still holds an advantage especially at 4 units, but then it's 8 ohm or 2 ohms with low sensitivity...
Modern class D amps will handle 2 ohms all day. I wish the very few distributors of DIY plate amps would get with the program and release 2ohm stable plate amps. For the most part, availability is limited to 30 year old concepts consisting of 50 year old tech. Time to let AB die a death.
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I have a pair and agree!
Is this significantly different than the regular truncated frame 6" nomex? I thought this was more of a cosmetic difference as this seems to the odd one out with the silver frame and phase plug.
It has more copper in the motor, probably "the best" of the Peerless HDS as measured by many.
Indeed, the motor is much improved, it's not just cosmetic difference, the "exclusive" line were the top end of Peerless back in the day, there was an 8" and a 4" as well, but today the 6.5" is the only one that remains. I've a feeling they won't last much longer either, so get a pair while you still can!
Is this buyout mid any good? I'm looking for something to mate with a Peerless 10" NE265W-08 and Viawave SRT-7.
https://parts-express.com/scan-speak-m11mh-27-4-1-2-paper-cone-midrange-4-ohm--299-716
Ron
looks like PE actually measured that buyout. Graph looks nice
The only issue that might concern me is the blip in the response (frequency and impedance) right around 1 KHz which could be a cone-edge resonance. On the other hand that's not unique and other drivers (e.g. Seas U16RCY/P) exhibit the same thing. Would be informative to a harmonic distortion plot. Otherwise it looks very nice. Note: this opinion is worth the paper its not printed on.
You could be really daring - consider the Dynavox LY302F. Measurements look very promising. I have to admit - it's downright ugly! It's been on my radar for a while now, but I just can't justify buying any more drivers until I clear some space on the shelf.
I have a pair of LY302F's sitting here, that I am going to run full range, I just haven't had the time to build the boxes.
No Xmax on that one to really speak of, but upper range is really good.
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The M11 is a good driver, it's properly a Vifa M11, I don't believe these ever sold under the Scan-Speak branding, anyway, while the response looks great, it doesn't have quite the motor quality of the Vifa NE.
I don't think the LY302F looks ugly apart from the whizzer cone. I saw some measurements of it recently, Facebook maybe, and it tested well but I'd still pick Vifa TC9/TG9 over it for a small full range.
How about this SB Acoustics 4" mid?
https://madisoundspeakerstore.com/approx-4-midrange/sb-acoustics-sb12mnrx2-25-04-4-midrange.-4-ohm-new-version/
Ron
Looks great on paper and I have liked every other SB driver I've heard.
I fine choice, also keep in mind that SB will be coming out with a 5" version of their carbon fibre cone driver in December if you can wait that long:
https://www.madisoundspeakerstore.com/approx-5-woofers/sb-acoustics-sb15crc30-8-5-woven-carbon-fiber-cone-woofer-8-ohm/
No price at Madisound but Solen has them listed for CAD$132 (USD$100), a bit pricey but then you have some time to save up for them
I did not like the 7" when I heard it, but that could have been implementation.
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Why is every aluminum basket SB driver from 3" to 5" $50 (excluding ceramic/kevlar). Its strange to have the same pricepoint because if im paying the same amount i would rather have the larger driver.
Beston rt002a $30. https://parts-express.com/beston-rt002a-ribbon-tweeter--277-112
I like those. I've got 3 waiting for a project.
Tempting.
Ron
Indeed, as a fellow planar tweeter fan.
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Tang Band w6 6.5" subwoofer https://parts-express.com/tang-band-w6-1139sif-6-1-2-paper-cone-subwoofer-speaker--264-919
That looks like the driver from my old Logitech speakers I had in my teenage years. Lots of bass for the size, I had problems with it yanking the voice coil leads right off the terminals...
I'm an idiot, so I bought a pair of the TB.
...I may have sound bar/tv stand plans.
I mean, I have some Dayton 4" coaxial floating around.
Hey, it looks like Dayton killed the 5" coaxial. Lame.
Wow, that's a new development....
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Missed the TB. How much was it going for on DoD?
Ani, are you doing okay? Not like you to miss an opportunity to acquire more drivers.
IIRC, it was about $47. When I did the Zirconiums, it was at $50.
The TB is a good driver, but at the current $60 price, I can't see a good reason to go with it over the Anarchy.
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The Anarchy seems more out of stock than in... But yes the Anarchy is good. In the 5" one the TB still holds an advantage especially at 4 units, but then it's 8 ohm or 2 ohms with low sensitivity...
Modern class D amps will handle 2 ohms all day. I wish the very few distributors of DIY plate amps would get with the program and release 2ohm stable plate amps. For the most part, availability is limited to 30 year old concepts consisting of 50 year old tech. Time to let AB die a death.