I can't speak for Ken, but what would concern me would be the 3 dB rise from 5.5 kHz to 6.5 kHz and the fact that it is non ferrofluid and has an Fs over 1 kHz means it probably won't cross extremely low. Once all of those things are considered, is it really better than something like the $33 SB26STCN? Maybe it is, but on paper it doesn't seem that way.
Keep an open mind, but don't let your brain fall out.
@ScottS said:
Once all of those things are considered, is it really better than something like the $33 SB26STCN? Maybe it is, but on paper it doesn't seem that way.
Man I love the SB26STCN! Used them in my Jonquils project.
I like wavecore, if only they could standardize the line and pricing and not make everything go NLA. Well my stock in particular is going NLA and I have a few...
I like the Wavecor tweeters that they call "chambered" (i.e. have a sizeable rear cavity). For example, the TW030WA05, 6, 7 and 8. All of these have an Fs around 450 Hz which makes handling the Fs impedance hump easier. You can get them w/o ferrofluid (the 5 and 7) or with ferrofluid (the 6 and 8), but the impedance hump difference is only a few ohms.
I'll definitely be in if the chambered, waveguide versions (the 11 and 12) ever go on the chopping block.
I'd be surprised if the WA11 and WA12 get cut from the lineup, they're the flagship tweeters from Wavecor, and excellent performers.
In my view, the top end Wavecor products offer excellent performance at a reasonable price, while their low end products are overpriced for what you get, at least on this side of the world.
That's too bad, and is unfortunately one of the reasons Dayton is generally not highly regarded in many circles.
The RS52 has everything it needs on paper, but perhaps with a possible recent change in vendor (I think the original was made by Peerless of India which appears to be defunct) soft parts may have changed.
Inadequately damped chamber. Should be caught by QC checks if Dayton ever did any. For all we know this sale is just an attempt to quietly offload a subpar batch of product.
I have an older pair of the alu, bought maybe 4-5 years ago... Don't know if it is worth the effort of putting it in a box, compared to the many others waiting their turn....
Is it typical for Newark to be r e a l l y s l o w with their shipping? I ordered a pair of MCM 55-5670 woofers on a different deal a little over a month ago and it took 3 weeks to get the in stock items. Hope you guys have better luck.
I used the GRS-3 driver in 2015 for a tiny tower using 8 of them per side.
(12 per side would have been better)
Sounded pretty good full range, and better with a BC25 tweeter and a cap inline to high pass the woofers around 150Hz
The 4 inchers should give much better bass.
But Chahly - Stahkist don't want speakers that look good, Stahkist wants speakers that sound good!
I used the Peerless HDS 835023 aluminum cone 4 inch as a mid in a 3 way and LOVED it. Recently played that design side by side with my current 3 way with a Morel CAM558 dome, and it didn't give up anything, and had better dynamics.
If I needed any more 6 1/2 inch woofers, this would be a strong buy. Don't know about the bass though.
But Chahly - Stahkist don't want speakers that look good, Stahkist wants speakers that sound good!
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I can't speak for Ken, but what would concern me would be the 3 dB rise from 5.5 kHz to 6.5 kHz and the fact that it is non ferrofluid and has an Fs over 1 kHz means it probably won't cross extremely low. Once all of those things are considered, is it really better than something like the $33 SB26STCN? Maybe it is, but on paper it doesn't seem that way.
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What Scott said. I did not notice the non Ferro fluid. I think I'll pass on this one.
Where did you find the measurements at?
Google
Man I love the SB26STCN! Used them in my Jonquils project.
I like wavecore, if only they could standardize the line and pricing and not make everything go NLA. Well my stock in particular is going NLA and I have a few...
I like the Wavecor tweeters that they call "chambered" (i.e. have a sizeable rear cavity). For example, the TW030WA05, 6, 7 and 8. All of these have an Fs around 450 Hz which makes handling the Fs impedance hump easier. You can get them w/o ferrofluid (the 5 and 7) or with ferrofluid (the 6 and 8), but the impedance hump difference is only a few ohms.
I'll definitely be in if the chambered, waveguide versions (the 11 and 12) ever go on the chopping block.
I'd be surprised if the WA11 and WA12 get cut from the lineup, they're the flagship tweeters from Wavecor, and excellent performers.
In my view, the top end Wavecor products offer excellent performance at a reasonable price, while their low end products are overpriced for what you get, at least on this side of the world.
Dayton Audio RS52FN-8 2" Reference Fabric Dome Midrange 8 Ohm $35. The freq response looks flat as a pancake.
How good is it? Anyone tied it or heard it. The old alu was a mixed bag
The FN has rather disappointing distortion levels:
https://hificompass.com/en/speakers/measurements/dayton-audio/dayton-audio-rs52fn-8
Both the FN and AN are now not meeting the flatness FR specification. See here:
(Start at post 323)
http://www.htguide.com/forum/showthread.php?33490-Driver-Evaluations-for-a-new-project/page10
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That's too bad, and is unfortunately one of the reasons Dayton is generally not highly regarded in many circles.
The RS52 has everything it needs on paper, but perhaps with a possible recent change in vendor (I think the original was made by Peerless of India which appears to be defunct) soft parts may have changed.
Yes- they were PoI products.
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Inadequately damped chamber. Should be caught by QC checks if Dayton ever did any. For all we know this sale is just an attempt to quietly offload a subpar batch of product.
P.E. would never do that...
I have an older pair of the alu, bought maybe 4-5 years ago... Don't know if it is worth the effort of putting it in a box, compared to the many others waiting their turn....
I just ordered a pair of MCM 55-5670 woofers. Newark has a 15% off voucher for the week. Autumn15.
https://newark.com/mcm-audio-select/55-5670/8-die-cast-woofer-8-ohm-rubbber/dp/95Y2936?ost=MCM+55-5670&cfm=true
Ron
Thanks for the heads up Ron. I ordered a pair too.
Is it typical for Newark to be r e a l l y s l o w with their shipping? I ordered a pair of MCM 55-5670 woofers on a different deal a little over a month ago and it took 3 weeks to get the in stock items. Hope you guys have better luck.
I got a UPS tracking number yesterday.
Hmmm, I'm not sure I would have EVER gotten them if I hadn't inquired. And of course they hit me up with satisfaction surveys for the next 2-3 weeks.
I ordered mine yesterday and received my tracking number today.
4" GRS papercone $3.50 https://parts-express.com/grs-4pf-8-4-paper-cone-foam-surround-woofer--292-404
I used the GRS-3 driver in 2015 for a tiny tower using 8 of them per side.
(12 per side would have been better)
Sounded pretty good full range, and better with a BC25 tweeter and a cap inline to high pass the woofers around 150Hz
The 4 inchers should give much better bass.
835025? Is this the one you used JR and couldn't stand? Maybe as the woofer in a small 3 way? The DOTD price is certainly attractive.
I used the 4" aluminum and did not like it at all. The poly 4" is great.
830855 is great too! Those do things in a 4" size that they shouldn't be able to.
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Now that PE is doing free shipping over $49, it's hard not to order a pair. I don't ever remember hearing these though...
I used the Peerless HDS 835023 aluminum cone 4 inch as a mid in a 3 way and LOVED it. Recently played that design side by side with my current 3 way with a Morel CAM558 dome, and it didn't give up anything, and had better dynamics.
If I needed any more 6 1/2 inch woofers, this would be a strong buy. Don't know about the bass though.