@Wolf said:
My pair of DX25BG60 register at a Zmax of about 20 ohms, so this tells me the Tymphany/Peerless to not have F/F.
That's interesting! The spec sheet from Tymphany shows aomething like 14 ohms, and yes I got the idea it had FF from the very suppressed looking Z curve shape. So I was wrong!
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@PWRRYD said:
Madisound is a great company to deal with. I always get my standard shipped packages the next day. Too bad they don't offer free shipping like PE.
Now what would be a good quality low cost woofer 6-8" woofer in the 40-60$ range for this tweeter? no frills but gets the work done without any objection? something that's better than the RS line and widely available....
IMO in that price range, there is not a lot of variability in driver quality. Take your pick of 6-8" woofers and run with it.
The Tymphany will cross fairly low, so 8" is likely a possibility. I guess I would give the Peerless mentioned a try, or 8" aluminum designer from Dayton.
In the 6-7" range, there are even fewer drivers that standout on cost/performance ratio in this price range. A safe bet is SB, but the Seas Prestige is an overlooked driver in the DIY world that sounds just fine.
I have not heard much about the prestige line.... In the next tier 80$ range, i guess SB takes the cake, lots of good solid performers... i don't see a reason to go over the 80-100 mark unless it's a exotic build or looking for something in particular...
the KB range also looks like a good cost per performer, but i haven't tried it and don't know how high the 8" can extend or if it's pure 3 way driver only.
The Seas CA line are very smooth and easy drivers. Nick used them in his faceted torsion-box 2-ways last year. cjd's Nebbiolo had CA18 woofers.
I absolutely loathe the L line, and the HD signature might be one of the reasons why. Breakup is nasty on these too.
I have a set of U18 to use in the future, and those sounded GREAT in the Malbecs Maynard did about 8 years ago. The U16 is also no slouch. I have a set of the FR10RB-8 as well. I've not heard the 8".
I think the lack of use of the Prestige woofers currently is due to higher prices than they used to be for not a lot more benefit, and that they have been used a lot in the past by many builders.
I'd put the Dynavox LW6004PMR high on my list of great performing drivers in the 40-60 range (it sits right in the middle at 50). Haven't used it yet myself, but it has sounded great each time I've heard it.
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It appears to be just a cast frame instead of the old adjust-a-basket or whatever it was called. This dropped the price from $88 to $50 and performance is identical. It's a unique driver and also high on my list.
I'd look at the Meniscus Eclipse 7" driver too. The standard version is a little over budget at $70, but seems well worth it. Last I checked though, they had an accidental high Qts run available for $40 that would achieve a nice low F3 in a sealed cab at the expense of efficiency.
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Forget about the opinions of blind people, send one of each to Erin and get some real data!
Vifa DX20 on sale for 8$ at PE. Anyone tried this one out?
https://www.parts-express.com/peerless-dx20bf00-04-3-4-silk-dome-tweeter-4-ohm--264-1472
I use them to much. For under $10 and it’s frame size It’s a great driver.
https://www.jfcomponents.com/
So is the SDS 4" there...
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My pair of DX25BG60 register at a Zmax of about 20 ohms, so this tells me the Tymphany/Peerless to not have F/F.
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What’s F/F ?
https://www.jfcomponents.com/
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That's interesting! The spec sheet from Tymphany shows aomething like 14 ohms, and yes I got the idea it had FF from the very suppressed looking Z curve shape. So I was wrong!
Maybe not. This is on the Madisound page JR linked above.
It is not my experience that tweeters with F/F have Zmax as high as 20 ohms, but I suppose it is possible.
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Those arrived fast!
https://www.jfcomponents.com/
Madisound is a great company to deal with. I always get my standard shipped packages the next day. Too bad they don't offer free shipping like PE.
I got free shipping.
https://www.jfcomponents.com/
free shipping over 100$
Cool! I didn't know that.
Now what would be a good quality low cost woofer 6-8" woofer in the 40-60$ range for this tweeter? no frills but gets the work done without any objection? something that's better than the RS line and widely available....
For $68 I'd use the Peerless by Tymphany 830869.
IMO in that price range, there is not a lot of variability in driver quality. Take your pick of 6-8" woofers and run with it.
The Tymphany will cross fairly low, so 8" is likely a possibility. I guess I would give the Peerless mentioned a try, or 8" aluminum designer from Dayton.
In the 6-7" range, there are even fewer drivers that standout on cost/performance ratio in this price range. A safe bet is SB, but the Seas Prestige is an overlooked driver in the DIY world that sounds just fine.
HiVi F6?
Sure- the F6 would work with it, and be a broad overlap between drivers to the point that LR2 is likely possible.
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I have not heard much about the prestige line.... In the next tier 80$ range, i guess SB takes the cake, lots of good solid performers... i don't see a reason to go over the 80-100 mark unless it's a exotic build or looking for something in particular...
the KB range also looks like a good cost per performer, but i haven't tried it and don't know how high the 8" can extend or if it's pure 3 way driver only.
The Seas CA line are very smooth and easy drivers. Nick used them in his faceted torsion-box 2-ways last year. cjd's Nebbiolo had CA18 woofers.
I absolutely loathe the L line, and the HD signature might be one of the reasons why. Breakup is nasty on these too.
I have a set of U18 to use in the future, and those sounded GREAT in the Malbecs Maynard did about 8 years ago. The U16 is also no slouch. I have a set of the FR10RB-8 as well. I've not heard the 8".
I think the lack of use of the Prestige woofers currently is due to higher prices than they used to be for not a lot more benefit, and that they have been used a lot in the past by many builders.
InDIYana Event Website
I'd put the Dynavox LW6004PMR high on my list of great performing drivers in the 40-60 range (it sits right in the middle at 50). Haven't used it yet myself, but it has sounded great each time I've heard it.
Agreed! Those Dynavox are underrated for sure.
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Looks like the LW6004PMR are NLA instead the Dynavox LW6004PMR-N and NC are currently available
What is the difference - I recall Ben mentioning something about one version or the pother being good.
https://www.parts-express.com/dynavox-lw6004pmr-nc-6-1-2-truncated-frame-woofer--295-622
Ani, I can't imagine you needing to buy any woofers.
It appears to be just a cast frame instead of the old adjust-a-basket or whatever it was called. This dropped the price from $88 to $50 and performance is identical. It's a unique driver and also high on my list.
I'd look at the Meniscus Eclipse 7" driver too. The standard version is a little over budget at $70, but seems well worth it. Last I checked though, they had an accidental high Qts run available for $40 that would achieve a nice low F3 in a sealed cab at the expense of efficiency.
Throwing an odd ball out there. Anyone used the Visaton w200s?
A classic and one of my favs at any price, still very high value today.
https://solen.ca/products/speakers/home-speakers/woofers/peerless-e180wr33p08-830883-18cm-nomex-cone-woofer/