Weak started with my themed entry a pile of wood. I knew I was running out of time but then I spent several hours fighting hurricane nuts that didn't grab. At least I tested before gluing parts into hard to reach places. Beginning to wonder if my entry may be vaporware.
Truth- I just finished the second trial disc for the house cuts. I finished the first one before 8pm. When I played it, it was supremely bright sounding on my recently completed Hancocks, which have not been bright.
Did some digging, and the laptop had an audio enhancement engaged. Thing is, it's likely the same for last year, as I had never fixed that before to my knowledge. It is possible an update turned it back on I suppose.
I'm very glad I had used EAC to rip the tracks, so I knew those were good. I even replayed them to make sure the weren't bright, and they didn't seem to be.
Still, I had to recut and fade them. One track seemed quiet, so I boosted it and left the others alone. I will have to await morning to listen again. Hopefully I just need to burn some copies....
I plan to bring my latest version of the Duane Brown/DrJay/CraigK Dayton 4 deluxe. Also my recently repaired vintage Ohm Walsh Model 5 Limited Edition for exhibition.
Just got home from work, gotta mow the yard, install the mini line array's final crossovers, then pack up the car for an early departure tomorrow morning to avoid the typical traffic mess around the south side of Lake Michigan. For those who don't know... I-80, I-90, and I-94 all merge together there! Always a lane or two closed due to road construction or an accident. Who in the wide world of sports thought that was a good idea?!?!? Past that it's a super easy, no stress drive through northern Indiana. See you guys tomorrow before lunch time.
@PWRRYD said:
Just got home from work, gotta mow the yard, install the mini line array's final crossovers, then pack up the car for an early departure tomorrow morning to avoid the typical traffic mess around the south side of Lake Michigan. For those who don't know... I-80, I-90, and I-94 all merge together there! Always a lane or two closed due to road construction or an accident. Who in the wide world of sports thought that was a good idea?!?!? Past that it's a super easy, no stress drive through northern Indiana. See you guys tomorrow before lunch time.
I know that intersection well. That is why I always avoid it. It will take me a little bit longer to get there, but I like a more relaxing type drive on the "road less travelled." Safe trips everyone. See you tomorrow.
I wish I was there as well. Looks like some really solid builds.
I’d be interested in hearing from Jack (kinda hard to make out full name on name card) but the 2 driver with the fostex build. Was this part of the contest build i.e. fostex used full spectrum or a two way, and if so where did you set the HP for the fostex? If the former, where would you cross the fostex IF modeled as a two-way? Thx
Jacks was part of the theme build, so no crossover on the full range. I think he went out first round by one vote, they sounded really nice! DaveFred took the victory. Fantastic sounding as well as show stopping looks!!
I realy enjoyed hearing what everyone had for the theme! Any of them I'd love to have more time with to explore the sound. I was especially surprised by the FRDs that don't measure perfect. There is alot more life in em that the graphs don't show.
@Steve_Lee said:
Those are some exemplary looking builds ^ - great pics, too!
Keep an ear open for some mid-field studio monitor designs for us, please . . .
A4eaudio did just that. His rendition of a set of Barefoot studio monitors were spot on. I could definitely do some mixing with those🤘🏼
I don't know why yellow speakers so make me smile, but they do! David really wanted feedback on these, so I did all I could to help him with it. They really loaded the room with bass well in that venue, so I had to be right in front of them for best observations. While I liked them quite a bit, 2 things stuck out, and I'm sure David will dig in and find what to do. On the Rain All Day track by Fleming and John, the upper operatic note definitely barked a bit, so I'm thinking the woofer breakup is probably not quite suppressed enough. The other was a bit of excessive warmth in the 200-300 Hz range making them sound chesty. Hairs are now split.
Eric is right though in the fact that they would do the job well. Most mixers DSP them to flat in their rooms before working with them anyway.
Bass was really good in this small cab, and I still love the XT25 family of tweeters. And for some reason, I like 3ways in the toppled over T/M-W. It's an efficient use of space on the front baffle.
The event went well, but we had quite a few cancellations and no shows which made the progress very laid back and left enough time to make sure everybody heard what they wanted to. I had more conversations this year with people that I feel I had not had the opportunity to do so before, and that was a plus.
About the theme...
Dave Eisan deserved the win, but I'll say that all of them had favorable qualities. None of them unloaded the widerange driver, which was part of the challenge, not even in listening outside of the theme structured time format. We had 10 entries total.
Some notables;
Crumbs had the RS100/2xDS175 mini towers, and they had no xover parts in the design. The visible 175 were PRs, and a single woofer operated in a bandpass inside. I strongly considered this approach when I was doing mine, but opted for the safer bet.
If I had a word for Jack's project it would be vintage, analog, or organic in terms of sound. While Fostex aren't usually my cup of tea, these were listenable without the honky midrange they can have.
Eric's were really well balanced.
And a note on the winning pair- Dave as we know is a great woodworker. He does not disappoint there. As far as I could tell, he was the only contestant that brought in the woofers at a much much lower frequency and allowed the widerange to work solo for a larger portion of the signal.
I had a great time, thank you all for coming, glad you all got home safe, and I hope you enjoyed your time here. Thanks to the sponsors and Nick, Chuck, Brad, Eric, Bill, JR, Mark, Ken, and anyone else that helped move speakers around, helped with the gear, or had song suggestions or submissions.
My 2 biggest smile generating things for the weekend involved the Oscar the Grouch track, and Eric's reconstruction of Bill's belt sander sound clip.
Many people smiled with glee hearing Oscar the first time, and likely more as it played again. It wasn't a clean track so much as something dynamic and fun to bridge the gap, cleansing aural memory between longer cuts. Then Craig Salin sat down in the second row for his first listen, and physically jumped with surprise at one of Oscar's preferred noises.
Seeing Bill's face after hearing his own voice on the house track was just so funny, and then realizing it wasn't the way he remembered it even funnier. There were many smiles for this over the 2 days.
Lastly,
I still plan on doing this event in the future. Yes, it is a lot of work, but also an immense amount of fun for everyone, including me. While Chuck may or may not attend or participate as he explained to those present this year, it is still something I want to do. It is nice that there is always someone willing to help organize and plan or have ideas about what could happen or be improved. It is also nice that many were concerned that InDIYana might not continue, and I thank you for that concern. It means we have a good thing going, and that it should continue. Thank you, to all of you.
I'm glad everyone had a laugh with my track, especially thanks to Bill for putting up with my shenanigans. After hearing it a bunch more on various speakers, I felt the drums weren't quite loud enough in the mix. Here's a tweaked version. Let me know if anything else stands out and I can try to address. Enjoy!!
Thanks to Ben and Chuck and everyone involved. It was excellent. Definitely worth the trip. Not sure how to the younger audio enthusiasts involved. Maybe that too is sinusoidal.
Great event, couldn't get my wife who went with me to appear heh - she hears enough about it all from me, plus she hates Fiona Apple that she overhead a gathering talking about the exposure of sonics.
I had been looking forward to it since holidays and the event never disappoints. Like commented above, feels like we fading breed but sure that has been said many times. I think there will always be the itch to experiment and learn but keep it approachable (unlike errrhmmm forum not to be named on jumping too far ahead of fundamentals).
Now I need to diy forgoing iron to make burnt branding of an egg logo into the lovely formica sheets. Need a thread to figure out best approach to the corners - like do i do face last after top, certain will have an outline trace and it'll be cool if presented right.
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Weak started with my themed entry a pile of wood. I knew I was running out of time but then I spent several hours fighting hurricane nuts that didn't grab. At least I tested before gluing parts into hard to reach places. Beginning to wonder if my entry may be vaporware.
then my tired brain typed weak not week.
Truth- I just finished the second trial disc for the house cuts. I finished the first one before 8pm. When I played it, it was supremely bright sounding on my recently completed Hancocks, which have not been bright.
Did some digging, and the laptop had an audio enhancement engaged. Thing is, it's likely the same for last year, as I had never fixed that before to my knowledge. It is possible an update turned it back on I suppose.
I'm very glad I had used EAC to rip the tracks, so I knew those were good. I even replayed them to make sure the weren't bright, and they didn't seem to be.
Still, I had to recut and fade them. One track seemed quiet, so I boosted it and left the others alone. I will have to await morning to listen again. Hopefully I just need to burn some copies....
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We will be at the hotel around 5:45.
Discs are all burned! Good to go there, 20x for the taking!
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I plan to bring my latest version of the Duane Brown/DrJay/CraigK Dayton 4 deluxe. Also my recently repaired vintage Ohm Walsh Model 5 Limited Edition for exhibition.
Ben, Trolley Bar works for me.
Time to get packing.
Safe travels for everyone!
Just got home from work, gotta mow the yard, install the mini line array's final crossovers, then pack up the car for an early departure tomorrow morning to avoid the typical traffic mess around the south side of Lake Michigan. For those who don't know... I-80, I-90, and I-94 all merge together there! Always a lane or two closed due to road construction or an accident. Who in the wide world of sports thought that was a good idea?!?!? Past that it's a super easy, no stress drive through northern Indiana. See you guys tomorrow before lunch time.
Checked in and ready for tomorrow. Room 220 if anyone wants to stop by for a beer.
I know that intersection well. That is why I always avoid it. It will take me a little bit longer to get there, but I like a more relaxing type drive on the "road less travelled." Safe trips everyone. See you tomorrow.
Check the travel time in the morning using Route 30 from the Indiana border. Right now that is the fastest way due to current traffic.
Hope you are all having a good time sorry I couldn't make it.
Have fun guys! Wish I could be there too, but May is always a busy time at work and here at home.
Having a great time, here's some quick picks...
Have fun. Wish I could be there.
I wish I was there as well. Looks like some really solid builds.
I’d be interested in hearing from Jack (kinda hard to make out full name on name card) but the 2 driver with the fostex build. Was this part of the contest build i.e. fostex used full spectrum or a two way, and if so where did you set the HP for the fostex? If the former, where would you cross the fostex IF modeled as a two-way? Thx
Those are some exemplary looking builds ^ - great pics, too!
Keep an ear open for some mid-field studio monitor designs for us, please . . .
Jacks was part of the theme build, so no crossover on the full range. I think he went out first round by one vote, they sounded really nice! DaveFred took the victory. Fantastic sounding as well as show stopping looks!!
A4eaudio did just that. His rendition of a set of Barefoot studio monitors were spot on. I could definitely do some mixing with those🤘🏼
I realy enjoyed hearing what everyone had for the theme! Any of them I'd love to have more time with to explore the sound. I was especially surprised by the FRDs that don't measure perfect. There is alot more life in em that the graphs don't show.
Was great seeing everyone, thanks to Ben and Chuck for their hard work.
Ditto! Awesome time as always, love you guys and going to this event!
I don't know why yellow speakers so make me smile, but they do! David really wanted feedback on these, so I did all I could to help him with it. They really loaded the room with bass well in that venue, so I had to be right in front of them for best observations. While I liked them quite a bit, 2 things stuck out, and I'm sure David will dig in and find what to do. On the Rain All Day track by Fleming and John, the upper operatic note definitely barked a bit, so I'm thinking the woofer breakup is probably not quite suppressed enough. The other was a bit of excessive warmth in the 200-300 Hz range making them sound chesty. Hairs are now split.
Eric is right though in the fact that they would do the job well. Most mixers DSP them to flat in their rooms before working with them anyway.
Bass was really good in this small cab, and I still love the XT25 family of tweeters. And for some reason, I like 3ways in the toppled over T/M-W. It's an efficient use of space on the front baffle.
The event went well, but we had quite a few cancellations and no shows which made the progress very laid back and left enough time to make sure everybody heard what they wanted to. I had more conversations this year with people that I feel I had not had the opportunity to do so before, and that was a plus.
About the theme...
Dave Eisan deserved the win, but I'll say that all of them had favorable qualities. None of them unloaded the widerange driver, which was part of the challenge, not even in listening outside of the theme structured time format. We had 10 entries total.
Some notables;
Crumbs had the RS100/2xDS175 mini towers, and they had no xover parts in the design. The visible 175 were PRs, and a single woofer operated in a bandpass inside. I strongly considered this approach when I was doing mine, but opted for the safer bet.
If I had a word for Jack's project it would be vintage, analog, or organic in terms of sound. While Fostex aren't usually my cup of tea, these were listenable without the honky midrange they can have.
Eric's were really well balanced.
And a note on the winning pair- Dave as we know is a great woodworker. He does not disappoint there. As far as I could tell, he was the only contestant that brought in the woofers at a much much lower frequency and allowed the widerange to work solo for a larger portion of the signal.
I had a great time, thank you all for coming, glad you all got home safe, and I hope you enjoyed your time here. Thanks to the sponsors and Nick, Chuck, Brad, Eric, Bill, JR, Mark, Ken, and anyone else that helped move speakers around, helped with the gear, or had song suggestions or submissions.
My 2 biggest smile generating things for the weekend involved the Oscar the Grouch track, and Eric's reconstruction of Bill's belt sander sound clip.
Many people smiled with glee hearing Oscar the first time, and likely more as it played again. It wasn't a clean track so much as something dynamic and fun to bridge the gap, cleansing aural memory between longer cuts. Then Craig Salin sat down in the second row for his first listen, and physically jumped with surprise at one of Oscar's preferred noises.
Seeing Bill's face after hearing his own voice on the house track was just so funny, and then realizing it wasn't the way he remembered it even funnier. There were many smiles for this over the 2 days.
Lastly,
I still plan on doing this event in the future. Yes, it is a lot of work, but also an immense amount of fun for everyone, including me. While Chuck may or may not attend or participate as he explained to those present this year, it is still something I want to do. It is nice that there is always someone willing to help organize and plan or have ideas about what could happen or be improved. It is also nice that many were concerned that InDIYana might not continue, and I thank you for that concern. It means we have a good thing going, and that it should continue. Thank you, to all of you.
InDIYana Event Website
I'm glad everyone had a laugh with my track, especially thanks to Bill for putting up with my shenanigans. After hearing it a bunch more on various speakers, I felt the drums weren't quite loud enough in the mix. Here's a tweaked version. Let me know if anything else stands out and I can try to address. Enjoy!!
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1AKQc-cyr-MrO1RFVPeSH4fZGCxAFnTCr/view?usp=drivesdk
Here is the theme demo for those interested:
https://1drv.ms/u/s!AlHuPRQmBiX2iK5msKXzBK3GU_T4FQ?e=RKkrd1
JR killed it in the bang for buck category with his Cabrini's.
I think that JR's 'Cabrini the Last' and Duane Brown's 'DM4' could take over the audio DIY world.
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Thanks to Ben and Chuck and everyone involved. It was excellent. Definitely worth the trip. Not sure how to the younger audio enthusiasts involved. Maybe that too is sinusoidal.
Had a great time like always. Thanks to everyone involved.
Happy Mother's day to all of your mama's!
Great event, couldn't get my wife who went with me to appear heh - she hears enough about it all from me, plus she hates Fiona Apple that she overhead a gathering talking about the exposure of sonics.
I had been looking forward to it since holidays and the event never disappoints. Like commented above, feels like we fading breed but sure that has been said many times. I think there will always be the itch to experiment and learn but keep it approachable (unlike errrhmmm forum not to be named on jumping too far ahead of fundamentals).
Now I need to diy forgoing iron to make burnt branding of an egg logo into the lovely formica sheets. Need a thread to figure out best approach to the corners - like do i do face last after top, certain will have an outline trace and it'll be cool if presented right.
The laminate core is difficult to hide. I wish it were not so, but it seems to be necessary for the durability of counter tops.