Some of you guys are building very nice cabinets, and being that this is a compromised design due to the crossover restrictions, I am curious as to how many of you plan to redo the crossover after the contest.
@ugly_woofer said:
Some of you guys are building very nice cabinets and being that this is a compromised design due to the crossover restrictions, I am curious as to how many of you plan to redo the crossover after the contest.
Mine are a complete rebuild. Full range breakup still is annoying. I built the tube amp speakers at the same time, and you can easily hear how much better a tweeter- mid woofer design sounds.
Fortunately, the HiVi RT1.3WE will fit with a little modification.
@ugly_woofer said:
Some of you guys are building very nice cabinets, and being that this is a compromised design due to the crossover restrictions, I am curious as to how many of you plan to redo the crossover after the contest.
I won't be redoing the xo.
I'm building reusable cabinets with removable front and back baffles. I already know the next design going in these boxes.
I started with the mindset of: "What if the full range driver was alone and what can the 1.5 design do to benefit that situation".
This led me to start with a 4" driver instead of a smaller one.
If it was alone, then BSC would be applied.. leading to even more bass excursion. Adding the 2nd driver removed the need for BSC to be applied. Sharing the excursion duties between them. Making it a net improvement rather than thinking of it as a detrement.
I realy like em and plan to keep em. For 4" they have lots of bass grunt in my living room and play way louder than I would have ever guessed they would be able to handle.
Made mine right up to the 35L limit, made back removable then rear mount screwed a 3d printed chamber with just silicone caulk to seal for easier removal. Plan to reroute the hole larger for a waveguide to pair the woofer with satori be ferrite tweet that had used scrap enclosure to try out couple months back and liked the 8" 2 way once landed on 2nd order electrical. Made cabs from that sanded plywood from Menards (those 2'x8' sheets that can fit in the cx-5 buggy). Stained it black and light dusting of matte lacquer rattle can. Hopefully can lightly sand, some light filler work and iron on veneer later.
Got tired of using the shelf particle board, cheap and convenient to handle, but so easy for rebates to get destroyed after woofer goes in and out couple times. So on plywood theme cab, put threaded inserts for woofer to go in and out as will glue a rear on later. Think it's not so much that mind throw away of particle board experiments since cheap but it still ends up a lingering mental battle to discard and not trying to find new purpose for them heh.
On my non theme pair, though still debating on which one to bring, is veneered and has swappable cup and trim rings that had originally intended to use for the theme entry (rss210hf + apr10 + pluvia7) - but used dang t-nuts and inner baffle layer of that cab has some particle board and getting fragile so have them in their final state paired with the seas L12 coax that I had in a speaker last year. Plus when prototyped before veneering, found self padding the widebander more than wanted making loudness more challenging to balance. The black alum L12 snazzy looking paired with the RSS210. It's rigged up with speak-on connector with passive xo for the L12 inside, active-passive for home use but made up with an external add-on xover, 2nd order high passer with mild resistance to damp a little bit, around 180hz, that worked out pretty well. Though need to test the voicing of the speaker out in bigger space since while to my liking in small room (lower volumes) but guessing could get boomy in big rooms/higher spl.
I built my entry in my left over 2015 Linehopper prototype cabs. This is now the third design in these cabs. Might take them to SDC in August for the new <300 small category if they allow 2 entries per person. If I do, I'll add a 220uF cap in series with the windbander. Otherwise, I'll just be taking my open unlimited project to SDC.
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Some of you guys are building very nice cabinets, and being that this is a compromised design due to the crossover restrictions, I am curious as to how many of you plan to redo the crossover after the contest.
It depends on how well they perform. I will leave that until after completed for the theme.
David, looks like we are about at the same progress point in our builds.
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Zero chance. Cabs in the trash, parts back on the shelf.
Same here hense the little effort on the paint job.
Mine are a complete rebuild. Full range breakup still is annoying. I built the tube amp speakers at the same time, and you can easily hear how much better a tweeter- mid woofer design sounds.
Fortunately, the HiVi RT1.3WE will fit with a little modification.
I won't be redoing the xo.
I'm building reusable cabinets with removable front and back baffles. I already know the next design going in these boxes.
I started with the mindset of: "What if the full range driver was alone and what can the 1.5 design do to benefit that situation".
This led me to start with a 4" driver instead of a smaller one.
If it was alone, then BSC would be applied.. leading to even more bass excursion. Adding the 2nd driver removed the need for BSC to be applied. Sharing the excursion duties between them. Making it a net improvement rather than thinking of it as a detrement.
I realy like em and plan to keep em. For 4" they have lots of bass grunt in my living room and play way louder than I would have ever guessed they would be able to handle.
Made mine right up to the 35L limit, made back removable then rear mount screwed a 3d printed chamber with just silicone caulk to seal for easier removal. Plan to reroute the hole larger for a waveguide to pair the woofer with satori be ferrite tweet that had used scrap enclosure to try out couple months back and liked the 8" 2 way once landed on 2nd order electrical. Made cabs from that sanded plywood from Menards (those 2'x8' sheets that can fit in the cx-5 buggy). Stained it black and light dusting of matte lacquer rattle can. Hopefully can lightly sand, some light filler work and iron on veneer later.
Got tired of using the shelf particle board, cheap and convenient to handle, but so easy for rebates to get destroyed after woofer goes in and out couple times. So on plywood theme cab, put threaded inserts for woofer to go in and out as will glue a rear on later. Think it's not so much that mind throw away of particle board experiments since cheap but it still ends up a lingering mental battle to discard and not trying to find new purpose for them heh.
On my non theme pair, though still debating on which one to bring, is veneered and has swappable cup and trim rings that had originally intended to use for the theme entry (rss210hf + apr10 + pluvia7) - but used dang t-nuts and inner baffle layer of that cab has some particle board and getting fragile so have them in their final state paired with the seas L12 coax that I had in a speaker last year. Plus when prototyped before veneering, found self padding the widebander more than wanted making loudness more challenging to balance. The black alum L12 snazzy looking paired with the RSS210. It's rigged up with speak-on connector with passive xo for the L12 inside, active-passive for home use but made up with an external add-on xover, 2nd order high passer with mild resistance to damp a little bit, around 180hz, that worked out pretty well. Though need to test the voicing of the speaker out in bigger space since while to my liking in small room (lower volumes) but guessing could get boomy in big rooms/higher spl.
I built my entry in my left over 2015 Linehopper prototype cabs. This is now the third design in these cabs. Might take them to SDC in August for the new <300 small category if they allow 2 entries per person. If I do, I'll add a 220uF cap in series with the windbander. Otherwise, I'll just be taking my open unlimited project to SDC.