I can understand a pilot in training doesn’t always get landing in a mountainous area with wind drafts on target the first time, but the captain should take the controls for the second attempt.
We went past the airport the first time way too high - and they came on and said so, the second time it looked like we were too high again - I had another pilot sitting next to me and he called it early.
After we went past the second time they came on and said there was a wind change and would need to come in from the other direction (it really wasn’t very choppy).
But 3rd attempt (about 30-40 mins later) we landed. 🤣
@Steve_Lee said:
Glad you made it without a desperate attempt at a crash landing using VFR . . .
Another pilot in the mix ?
I’m only VFR / non-engine (sailplane) rated, but the guy next to me was small engine plane certified. I never had to worry about an engine failure 🤣
@Steve_Lee said:
Glad you made it without a desperate attempt at a crash landing using VFR . . .
Another pilot in the mix ?
I’m only VFR / non-engine (sailplane) rated, but the guy next to me was small engine plane certified. I never had to worry about an engine failure 🤣
A Boeing 767 ran out of fuel at 41,000 ft. and made a safe emergency landing in 1983. One of the pilots was an experienced glider pilot and used his glider skills to land the plane.
@Ron_E said:
A Boeing 767 ran out of fuel at 41,000 ft. and made a safe emergency landing in 1983. One of the pilots was an experienced glider pilot and used his glider skills to land the plane.
There's an active glider club at our airport. One of my friends who is now a glider instructor got me my first glider ride many years ago with a WWII carrier pilot who was a member of the club. Gliders always come in high and the pilot turns the glider slightly sideways to bleed off speed and altitude in order to land just where they want to. My first ride was smooth as silk. Gliders are great fun. For those of you on Facebook here's a link to the club.
Those 'airliners as glider' incidents show amazing skill and judgement by pilots and crew. A bit of luck can help, too.
Sully's landing on the Hudson was a superb piece of airmanship, accomplished with very little time to work out what to do. Amongst those sort of events - thankfully, the rarest of the rare - the 'Miracle on the Hudson' would have to take the prize.
Another incredible event was when a British Airways B747 lost all four engines after flying through a cloud of volcanic ash - and they were well over the ocean at the time. Luckily, they were able to re-start the engines after they had lost a lot of altitude and time, which probably felt like hours to all concerned.
The pilots later said that the hard part (!?) was trying to land with no visibility as the ash had scoured the windscreen to opacity.
A Boeing 767 ran out of fuel at 41,000 ft. and made a safe emergency landing in 1983. One of the pilots was an experienced glider pilot and used his glider skills to land the plane.
IIRC, the pilot was ex-navy and used his side-slipping skill to wash off speed and land on a disused air force base which was being used as a drag-strip. And it had people on it at the time.
I must admit I'm addicted to thse 'Air Crash Investigations ' documentaries.
I've been off and on watching Mentour Pilot/Mentour Now!, 74 Gear, etc. channels on youtube. It has been an interesting view into the commercial aviation world.
I get this bad boy off on the 19th then rehab. Yay for me, hopefully by mid September or so I will be strong and flexible enough to glue up a flat pack I have sitting in garage. I cut those about a week before I fell.
Lots of rain here in SE Wisconsin. About 6" in past 24 hrs where I am, so no flooding or basement problems for me. But some areas nearby got 10 to 13" in the past 24 hours. This one was a super soaker.
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he's got himself a weather barometer in his wrist now . . . give it a few weeks and he'll figure it out.
Randomly found this monstrosity of an RC charge connector adapter while looking for some small screws. Gave me a chuckle.
https://microfasteners.com/product.php?productid=19230&cat=259&page=1
That adaptor's got everything and the kitchen sink!
Swiss Knife Adapter?
That thing is really weird.
I can understand a pilot in training doesn’t always get landing in a mountainous area with wind drafts on target the first time, but the captain should take the controls for the second attempt.
We went past the airport the first time way too high - and they came on and said so, the second time it looked like we were too high again - I had another pilot sitting next to me and he called it early.
After we went past the second time they came on and said there was a wind change and would need to come in from the other direction (it really wasn’t very choppy).
But 3rd attempt (about 30-40 mins later) we landed. 🤣

Glad you made it without a desperate attempt at a crash landing using VFR . . .
Another pilot in the mix ?
I’m only VFR / non-engine (sailplane) rated, but the guy next to me was small engine plane certified. I never had to worry about an engine failure 🤣
For some reason I've been watching Captain Steeeve on YouTube lately.
A Boeing 767 ran out of fuel at 41,000 ft. and made a safe emergency landing in 1983. One of the pilots was an experienced glider pilot and used his glider skills to land the plane.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gimli_Glider
That’s an amazing link - thx for posting
And a more contemporary episode of the same glider pilot skills . . .
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/US_Airways_Flight_1549
I'm not a pilot but have been around and in the air with some interesting people during my lifetime.
There's an active glider club at our airport. One of my friends who is now a glider instructor got me my first glider ride many years ago with a WWII carrier pilot who was a member of the club. Gliders always come in high and the pilot turns the glider slightly sideways to bleed off speed and altitude in order to land just where they want to. My first ride was smooth as silk. Gliders are great fun. For those of you on Facebook here's a link to the club.
https://facebook.com/midiowagliderclub/
Those 'airliners as glider' incidents show amazing skill and judgement by pilots and crew. A bit of luck can help, too.
Sully's landing on the Hudson was a superb piece of airmanship, accomplished with very little time to work out what to do. Amongst those sort of events - thankfully, the rarest of the rare - the 'Miracle on the Hudson' would have to take the prize.
Another incredible event was when a British Airways B747 lost all four engines after flying through a cloud of volcanic ash - and they were well over the ocean at the time. Luckily, they were able to re-start the engines after they had lost a lot of altitude and time, which probably felt like hours to all concerned.
The pilots later said that the hard part (!?) was trying to land with no visibility as the ash had scoured the windscreen to opacity.
Geoff
. . . Surprised the ^ IFR system functioned throughout that episode . . . and they lived . . .
IIRC, the pilot was ex-navy and used his side-slipping skill to wash off speed and land on a disused air force base which was being used as a drag-strip. And it had people on it at the time.
I must admit I'm addicted to thse 'Air Crash Investigations ' documentaries.
Geoff
Nice recording with a focused vocal center image. Keith Greeninger
https://music.apple.com/us/album/looking-for-a-home/302821618?i=302821626
I've been off and on watching Mentour Pilot/Mentour Now!, 74 Gear, etc. channels on youtube. It has been an interesting view into the commercial aviation world.
I get this bad boy off on the 19th then rehab. Yay for me, hopefully by mid September or so I will be strong and flexible enough to glue up a flat pack I have sitting in garage. I cut those about a week before I fell.
Hold this ball and trace a circle with it...
Love this one, a great pastiche of early 60s pop by Spinal Tap.
And while I'm on the subject, John Lennon once said that he didn't remember writing this one:
Geoff
Lots of rain here in SE Wisconsin. About 6" in past 24 hrs where I am, so no flooding or basement problems for me. But some areas nearby got 10 to 13" in the past 24 hours. This one was a super soaker.
We could use some of that out west 🌧️
Some localized flooding here right now. We got 4" in one hour. And the super soaker is moving towards Milwaukee. I bet the state fair is washed out.