I can understand a pilot in training doesn’t always get landing in a mountainous area with wind drafts on target the first time, but the captain should take the controls for the second attempt.
We went past the airport the first time way too high - and they came on and said so, the second time it looked like we were too high again - I had another pilot sitting next to me and he called it early.
After we went past the second time they came on and said there was a wind change and would need to come in from the other direction (it really wasn’t very choppy).
But 3rd attempt (about 30-40 mins later) we landed. 🤣
@Steve_Lee said:
Glad you made it without a desperate attempt at a crash landing using VFR . . .
Another pilot in the mix ?
I’m only VFR / non-engine (sailplane) rated, but the guy next to me was small engine plane certified. I never had to worry about an engine failure 🤣
@Steve_Lee said:
Glad you made it without a desperate attempt at a crash landing using VFR . . .
Another pilot in the mix ?
I’m only VFR / non-engine (sailplane) rated, but the guy next to me was small engine plane certified. I never had to worry about an engine failure 🤣
A Boeing 767 ran out of fuel at 41,000 ft. and made a safe emergency landing in 1983. One of the pilots was an experienced glider pilot and used his glider skills to land the plane.
@Ron_E said:
A Boeing 767 ran out of fuel at 41,000 ft. and made a safe emergency landing in 1983. One of the pilots was an experienced glider pilot and used his glider skills to land the plane.
There's an active glider club at our airport. One of my friends who is now a glider instructor got me my first glider ride many years ago with a WWII carrier pilot who was a member of the club. Gliders always come in high and the pilot turns the glider slightly sideways to bleed off speed and altitude in order to land just where they want to. My first ride was smooth as silk. Gliders are great fun. For those of you on Facebook here's a link to the club.
Those 'airliners as glider' incidents show amazing skill and judgement by pilots and crew. A bit of luck can help, too.
Sully's landing on the Hudson was a superb piece of airmanship, accomplished with very little time to work out what to do. Amongst those sort of events - thankfully, the rarest of the rare - the 'Miracle on the Hudson' would have to take the prize.
Another incredible event was when a British Airways B747 lost all four engines after flying through a cloud of volcanic ash - and they were well over the ocean at the time. Luckily, they were able to re-start the engines after they had lost a lot of altitude and time, which probably felt like hours to all concerned.
The pilots later said that the hard part (!?) was trying to land with no visibility as the ash had scoured the windscreen to opacity.
A Boeing 767 ran out of fuel at 41,000 ft. and made a safe emergency landing in 1983. One of the pilots was an experienced glider pilot and used his glider skills to land the plane.
IIRC, the pilot was ex-navy and used his side-slipping skill to wash off speed and land on a disused air force base which was being used as a drag-strip. And it had people on it at the time.
I must admit I'm addicted to thse 'Air Crash Investigations ' documentaries.
I've been off and on watching Mentour Pilot/Mentour Now!, 74 Gear, etc. channels on youtube. It has been an interesting view into the commercial aviation world.
I get this bad boy off on the 19th then rehab. Yay for me, hopefully by mid September or so I will be strong and flexible enough to glue up a flat pack I have sitting in garage. I cut those about a week before I fell.
Lots of rain here in SE Wisconsin. About 6" in past 24 hrs where I am, so no flooding or basement problems for me. But some areas nearby got 10 to 13" in the past 24 hours. This one was a super soaker.
True to form I've already started my 2026 InDIYana theme project. My plan (approved by Wolf) is to build a tower speaker project but in two separate cabinets per side. A bass bin cabinet (single woofer) and a separate top cabinet that will house the 4 octave midrange required and a tweeter. The idea behind this is to make constructing, loading/unloading, and fitting the project into my average sized sedan much easier. I don't see any sonic benefits to this idea vs a traditional one cabinet tower.
Driving home from work today I began to day dream about several other driver combinations I have on my shelves that I would love to try with this "bass bin", outside of the theme build of course. In that sense, this bass bin is somewhat like Ben's "Versabox" work horse. I can quickly and easily knock out a simple small top enclosure with cheap Menards PB shelving and play with different driver combos and crossovers to my heart's content.
The bass bin I'm building is 1.1 cubic foot gross internal, 28.3 Liters net after subtracting the volume of the port, the bracing, and what the driver's basket/magnet displace. The woofer drivers are the Rival Acoustic R176-KB-08. I bought a NIB pair from Chuck this year at Indy. Modeled F3 is really low, sensitivity is good, solid 8 ohm load, and the past Rival drivers I've measured all had really low distortion. I don't expect these drivers to be any different. I need come up with a name for them... how about the VersaBins or the VersaBasses?
@PWRRYD - You might think about using some of the cavity space of the MT cab as an extension of the bass bin with a gasket while leaving a pass-through hole between the two cabs - yielding more bass extension and keeping the same footprint - just a passing thought . . . (I'd like to do this myself to make moving the speakers easier/less damage to speakers and house (walls, etc).
Yoga mats can sometimes make a good seal between, if that is the case needed.
About the theme...
Remember that the volume of the 1.5ft^3 max is what is inside the outer walls. This includes the bracing, ports, driver magnets, networks, etc.
Versatility...
I've been very happy just having to swap baffles to try another build. I hope you have success in the same method. My VersaBox (4) and MonkeyBox (2) workhorse/mules have a total of 6 builds and counting with 2 to 3 more somewhat started already. Saves room in storage of boxes if you do that, as just baffles are required.
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he's got himself a weather barometer in his wrist now . . . give it a few weeks and he'll figure it out.
Randomly found this monstrosity of an RC charge connector adapter while looking for some small screws. Gave me a chuckle.
https://microfasteners.com/product.php?productid=19230&cat=259&page=1
That adaptor's got everything and the kitchen sink!
Swiss Knife Adapter?
That thing is really weird.
I can understand a pilot in training doesn’t always get landing in a mountainous area with wind drafts on target the first time, but the captain should take the controls for the second attempt.
We went past the airport the first time way too high - and they came on and said so, the second time it looked like we were too high again - I had another pilot sitting next to me and he called it early.
After we went past the second time they came on and said there was a wind change and would need to come in from the other direction (it really wasn’t very choppy).
But 3rd attempt (about 30-40 mins later) we landed. 🤣
Glad you made it without a desperate attempt at a crash landing using VFR . . .
Another pilot in the mix ?
I’m only VFR / non-engine (sailplane) rated, but the guy next to me was small engine plane certified. I never had to worry about an engine failure 🤣
For some reason I've been watching Captain Steeeve on YouTube lately.
A Boeing 767 ran out of fuel at 41,000 ft. and made a safe emergency landing in 1983. One of the pilots was an experienced glider pilot and used his glider skills to land the plane.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gimli_Glider
That’s an amazing link - thx for posting
And a more contemporary episode of the same glider pilot skills . . .
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/US_Airways_Flight_1549
I'm not a pilot but have been around and in the air with some interesting people during my lifetime.
There's an active glider club at our airport. One of my friends who is now a glider instructor got me my first glider ride many years ago with a WWII carrier pilot who was a member of the club. Gliders always come in high and the pilot turns the glider slightly sideways to bleed off speed and altitude in order to land just where they want to. My first ride was smooth as silk. Gliders are great fun. For those of you on Facebook here's a link to the club.
https://facebook.com/midiowagliderclub/
Those 'airliners as glider' incidents show amazing skill and judgement by pilots and crew. A bit of luck can help, too.
Sully's landing on the Hudson was a superb piece of airmanship, accomplished with very little time to work out what to do. Amongst those sort of events - thankfully, the rarest of the rare - the 'Miracle on the Hudson' would have to take the prize.
Another incredible event was when a British Airways B747 lost all four engines after flying through a cloud of volcanic ash - and they were well over the ocean at the time. Luckily, they were able to re-start the engines after they had lost a lot of altitude and time, which probably felt like hours to all concerned.
The pilots later said that the hard part (!?) was trying to land with no visibility as the ash had scoured the windscreen to opacity.
Geoff
. . . Surprised the ^ IFR system functioned throughout that episode . . . and they lived . . .
IIRC, the pilot was ex-navy and used his side-slipping skill to wash off speed and land on a disused air force base which was being used as a drag-strip. And it had people on it at the time.
I must admit I'm addicted to thse 'Air Crash Investigations ' documentaries.
Geoff
Nice recording with a focused vocal center image. Keith Greeninger
https://music.apple.com/us/album/looking-for-a-home/302821618?i=302821626
I've been off and on watching Mentour Pilot/Mentour Now!, 74 Gear, etc. channels on youtube. It has been an interesting view into the commercial aviation world.
I get this bad boy off on the 19th then rehab. Yay for me, hopefully by mid September or so I will be strong and flexible enough to glue up a flat pack I have sitting in garage. I cut those about a week before I fell.
Hold this ball and trace a circle with it...
Love this one, a great pastiche of early 60s pop by Spinal Tap.
And while I'm on the subject, John Lennon once said that he didn't remember writing this one:
Geoff
Lots of rain here in SE Wisconsin. About 6" in past 24 hrs where I am, so no flooding or basement problems for me. But some areas nearby got 10 to 13" in the past 24 hours. This one was a super soaker.
We could use some of that out west 🌧️
Some localized flooding here right now. We got 4" in one hour. And the super soaker is moving towards Milwaukee. I bet the state fair is washed out.
I thought this was an interesting connection of racing using a new physical analogue of a passive electrical component.
Yeah that video was a real eye opener as to what was going on to the cars all of a sudden when the tech was banned. Genius.
True to form I've already started my 2026 InDIYana theme project. My plan (approved by Wolf) is to build a tower speaker project but in two separate cabinets per side. A bass bin cabinet (single woofer) and a separate top cabinet that will house the 4 octave midrange required and a tweeter. The idea behind this is to make constructing, loading/unloading, and fitting the project into my average sized sedan much easier. I don't see any sonic benefits to this idea vs a traditional one cabinet tower.
Driving home from work today I began to day dream about several other driver combinations I have on my shelves that I would love to try with this "bass bin", outside of the theme build of course. In that sense, this bass bin is somewhat like Ben's "Versabox" work horse. I can quickly and easily knock out a simple small top enclosure with cheap Menards PB shelving and play with different driver combos and crossovers to my heart's content.
The bass bin I'm building is 1.1 cubic foot gross internal, 28.3 Liters net after subtracting the volume of the port, the bracing, and what the driver's basket/magnet displace. The woofer drivers are the Rival Acoustic R176-KB-08. I bought a NIB pair from Chuck this year at Indy. Modeled F3 is really low, sensitivity is good, solid 8 ohm load, and the past Rival drivers I've measured all had really low distortion. I don't expect these drivers to be any different. I need come up with a name for them... how about the VersaBins or the VersaBasses?
Ri-versals (using a part of the driver name?)
Moggies? (one small box on top of the bass bin could look a bit like a cat sitting down)
Rivalries?
Geoff
@PWRRYD - You might think about using some of the cavity space of the MT cab as an extension of the bass bin with a gasket while leaving a pass-through hole between the two cabs - yielding more bass extension and keeping the same footprint - just a passing thought . . . (I'd like to do this myself to make moving the speakers easier/less damage to speakers and house (walls, etc).
Yoga mats can sometimes make a good seal between, if that is the case needed.
About the theme...
Remember that the volume of the 1.5ft^3 max is what is inside the outer walls. This includes the bracing, ports, driver magnets, networks, etc.
Versatility...
I've been very happy just having to swap baffles to try another build. I hope you have success in the same method. My VersaBox (4) and MonkeyBox (2) workhorse/mules have a total of 6 builds and counting with 2 to 3 more somewhat started already. Saves room in storage of boxes if you do that, as just baffles are required.
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