The SS Illuminators are the only ones I know of that are similar to as pictured, and small in form factor.
I also felt the new Morel looked like the MDT12 and ND28.
As to the Delmar woofers-
I used the 6.5" in the 'Black Box' theme build called "Schwarz XL", and my experience was not favorable. I bought a pair, and one of them had an offset dustcap that LEAKED AIR. This caused noise. I bought a 3rd one, but the specs were really different than the other 2, and the initial pair weren't 'matched' by any right. I ended up sealing the leaky one with an adhesive, and using a stuffed-vented box to try and get approximately the same box alignment or extension from both. I know Jeff had used a few of the larger ones in a sealed subwoofer for somebody at some point as he mentioned it, and wasn't cutting them down. I guess depending on how many you have to use, and the goals applied; YMMV.
I'd love to give the aluminum HDS a try, the smaller 15cm and 12cm variants have been on sale at Solen for ages for cheap cheap. Alas, I've enough drivers and projects lined up on the shelf already.
I used the 6-1/2" Aluminum HDS in my DCT-1 design (see PE speaker gallery) and currently built a small 3-way with them. I think people shy away from this driver because the response is ugly above 1kHz but below that it really shines. I suppose with a tweeter in a large waveguide and low x-over this woofer could work in a two way.
@dcibel said:
I'd love to give the aluminum HDS a try, the smaller 15cm and 12cm variants have been on sale at Solen for ages for cheap cheap. Alas, I've enough drivers and projects lined up on the shelf already.
Me too on the driver stock!
I used a 4 inch HDS mid in a 3 way and totally loved it.
But Chahly - Stahkist don't want speakers that look good, Stahkist wants speakers that sound good!
Hmmm, very Amazonish look to the PE web site revamp. And I believe that's a formerly $12 tweeter (Tymphany BC25SC08-04) jacked up to $25 and then discounted back to $15? What a deal.
@Turn2 said:
Hmmm, very Amazonish look to the PE web site revamp. And I believe that's a formerly $12 tweeter (Tymphany BC25SC08-04) jacked up to $25 and then discounted back to $15? What a deal.
Spent some time browsing - definitely pandering to mobile users. My single biggest complaint about this type of formatting is it renders the back button relatively useless. If you click on the hamburger icon to begin your drill down - if you accidentally click on the wrong thing and hit your back button it takes you back to the home page.
Not a deal breaker on small websites, but on websites where you might drill down through six or more categories it is painful. For people used to standard navigation tools it is irritating but I guess it is the way of the world now. It irritates me on real computers and mobile platforms.
The sliders used to narrow the search are pretty stupid in general. It insists on applying its position as a filter immediately - which means you are obliged to wait until it loads new results before applying additional constraints.
The above are my two biggest complaints from a usability standpoint - YMMV - but as a general rule modern web store design is pretty shitty - and has been for a decade. It isn't just PE - for awhile there on eBay you could filter a search for RAM for everything but actual capacity. On PE you can now filter air core coils by DCR, inductance, wire gauge, brand, review quality, and price. Due to the huge individual item listings just browsing them is painful - you can not really get more than a couple-three results on your monitor. I scan pages, so this presentation is very difficult for me to process. YMMV etc.
All in all, it is a pretty good example of the shitshow that the proliferation of mobile devices has resulted in.
Not sure I like this new layout either. But the old site used to revert back to the top when you expanded one of the choices along the side, like Brand. At least they fixed that.
@jhollander said:
I guess all of PEs biggest customers use mobile devices
or at least all of the young guys putting monster subs into their cars....
It's a hoot that they are soliciting feedback. We know how that went last time around!
But Chahly - Stahkist don't want speakers that look good, Stahkist wants speakers that sound good!
@jr@mac said:
Ok, so I really hate the new site but I did manage to see some new drivers coming.
I am very curious about 292-820.
God, the site is terrible.
The only spec listed so far is the weight... 11 pounds! That's quite a bit more than the 7.35 pound GRS12SW-4. I wonder what its xmax and sensitivity will be.
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How come you don't see small format tweeters with large rear chambers? Certainly it can be done without a great added expense?
The SS Illuminators are the only ones I know of that are similar to as pictured, and small in form factor.
I also felt the new Morel looked like the MDT12 and ND28.
As to the Delmar woofers-
I used the 6.5" in the 'Black Box' theme build called "Schwarz XL", and my experience was not favorable. I bought a pair, and one of them had an offset dustcap that LEAKED AIR. This caused noise. I bought a 3rd one, but the specs were really different than the other 2, and the initial pair weren't 'matched' by any right. I ended up sealing the leaky one with an adhesive, and using a stuffed-vented box to try and get approximately the same box alignment or extension from both. I know Jeff had used a few of the larger ones in a sealed subwoofer for somebody at some point as he mentioned it, and wasn't cutting them down. I guess depending on how many you have to use, and the goals applied; YMMV.
InDIYana Event Website
Nice little woofer on DOTD today - no idea why, it shows a MOQ of 50 pieces.
Shows a W4-1052SD now, and nothing mentioned of MOQ.
InDIYana Event Website
I see the comment now.... Nothing at the price listing though...
InDIYana Event Website
Peerless by Tymphany 835025 6-1/2" Aluminum Cone HDS Woofer #$29.98 https://parts-express.com/peerless-by-tymphany-835025-6-1-2-aluminum-cone-hds-woofer--264-1086
I'd love to give the aluminum HDS a try, the smaller 15cm and 12cm variants have been on sale at Solen for ages for cheap cheap. Alas, I've enough drivers and projects lined up on the shelf already.
I used the 6-1/2" Aluminum HDS in my DCT-1 design (see PE speaker gallery) and currently built a small 3-way with them. I think people shy away from this driver because the response is ugly above 1kHz but below that it really shines. I suppose with a tweeter in a large waveguide and low x-over this woofer could work in a two way.
Me too on the driver stock!
I used a 4 inch HDS mid in a 3 way and totally loved it.
PE currently has the Wavecor WF182BD03 for $80, another clearance item.
Better hurry, they only have 5 left in stock.
Do my eyes deceive me or is that 4" TB with MoQ of 50 the DOTD again? Are we being trolled?
They show in stock - order a pair, see what happens
Hmmm, very Amazonish look to the PE web site revamp. And I believe that's a formerly $12 tweeter (Tymphany BC25SC08-04) jacked up to $25 and then discounted back to $15? What a deal.
Well, that's hideous.
I'm definitely not a fan of the new site.
Two thumbs down!
maybe PE's old format was just too easy to find what you were looking for...
I like it, looks nice.
https://www.parts-express.com/Peerless-BC25SC06-04-1-Textile-Dome-Tweeter-264-1028?quantity=1
To be fair, they have carried two very similar versions for awhile now.
Spent some time browsing - definitely pandering to mobile users. My single biggest complaint about this type of formatting is it renders the back button relatively useless. If you click on the hamburger icon to begin your drill down - if you accidentally click on the wrong thing and hit your back button it takes you back to the home page.
Not a deal breaker on small websites, but on websites where you might drill down through six or more categories it is painful. For people used to standard navigation tools it is irritating but I guess it is the way of the world now. It irritates me on real computers and mobile platforms.
The sliders used to narrow the search are pretty stupid in general. It insists on applying its position as a filter immediately - which means you are obliged to wait until it loads new results before applying additional constraints.
The above are my two biggest complaints from a usability standpoint - YMMV - but as a general rule modern web store design is pretty shitty - and has been for a decade. It isn't just PE - for awhile there on eBay you could filter a search for RAM for everything but actual capacity. On PE you can now filter air core coils by DCR, inductance, wire gauge, brand, review quality, and price. Due to the huge individual item listings just browsing them is painful - you can not really get more than a couple-three results on your monitor. I scan pages, so this presentation is very difficult for me to process. YMMV etc.
All in all, it is a pretty good example of the shitshow that the proliferation of mobile devices has resulted in.
And stay off my lawn.
Not sure I like this new layout either. But the old site used to revert back to the top when you expanded one of the choices along the side, like Brand. At least they fixed that.
I agree 100% with Jr's assessment, and particularly with the pandering to mobile devices and touch screen in general.
I guess all of PEs biggest customers use mobile devices
New PE site = YUCK!
or at least all of the young guys putting monster subs into their cars....
It's a hoot that they are soliciting feedback. We know how that went last time around!
Ok, so I really hate the new site but I did manage to see some new drivers coming.
I am very curious about 292-820.
God, the site is terrible.
I can't see any info or pictures of that sub. Do you have some info on it?
https://www.parts-express.com/Dayton-Audio-ES104AMT-4-AMT-Esoteric-Series-AMT-Tweeter-4-Ohm-275-397?quantity=1
Looks like an Eton AMT with a round face plate. Price is right.
The only spec listed so far is the weight... 11 pounds! That's quite a bit more than the 7.35 pound GRS12SW-4. I wonder what its xmax and sensitivity will be.
Yes, the new site absolutely sucks!