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New 3 way project with PLA200-6 planar

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  • PWRRYD said:
    Next up....  fill them with sun dried pool filter sand.  Should add about 10 pounds each!
    Ooh, sun dried is the best! Preserves and intensifies all the audio flavor...
     John H
  • Sun-dried if fine and all, I prefer fire roasted. Nothing like the crispy carmalized sounds of heavy metal sand rock!
  • edited August 2019
    Ben,
    Marked them, drew a pencil line, then cut them on the table saw.
  • The tubes are packed tight with dry pool filter sand.  The sand added a whopping 13.7 pounds per enclosure!!!  These babies are gonna be dead :)


    JasonPjhollanderkennykNicholas_23hifiside
  • edited August 2019
    Can you hear the sand moving in the tubes?  Just wondering how you pack the sand to keep it from moving. (edited my original poor wording)
     John H
  • Yes I had to pack it in there real tight.  Otherwise you could hear the sand moving when you shook the speaker up and down.  I used a large drift punch and kept packing it in there, shake, add some more, pack it some more, etc.  Took about 1/2 hour per tube.  It was obvious when the tube was completely full and would not accept another grain.  And now there is zero sand moving sound.
  • That is just hot glue I used to seal off the sand holes.
  • PWRRYD said:
    Yes I had to pack it in there real tight.  Otherwise you could hear the sand moving when you shook the speaker up and down.  I used a large drift punch and kept packing it in there, shake, add some more, pack it some more, etc.  Took about 1/2 hour per tube.  It was obvious when the tube was completely full and would not accept another grain.  And now there is zero sand moving sound.
    A vibrator would have worked great. No, not THAT kind of vibrator. Any kind of "home remedy" muscle vibrators would work well. We used something similar when pouring concrete walls.
    Nicholas_23
    But Chahly - Stahkist don't want speakers that look good, Stahkist wants speakers that sound good!
  • rjj45 said:
    A vibrator would have worked great. No, not THAT kind of vibrator. Any kind of "home remedy" muscle vibrators would work well. We used something similar when pouring concrete walls.
    A 1/4 sheet sander works as a vibrator as well...
    rjj45S7910kennykPWRRYD
  • Some great news!  I found some time this morning and was able to take FR and distortion measurements of the PLA200 planars and the RT1.3WE tweeters in their "big round -over" enclosures.  The PLA's were only surface mounted for this test but the two units measured exactly the same.  Nice and smooth FR and low distortion in the pass band.  So it's a green light to go ahead and veneer the enclosures and build a template to rebate the planars.  On a subjective note, the mids sounded super clean and clear when the OmniMic Lady announced the tracks  B)
    kennykrjj45S79106thplanetBrannigansLaw
  • how low and how high can you cross the mids?
  • At first glance I would say roughly 700 to 5000 no problem.
    ani_101kennykrjj45
  • Those look pretty nice compared to the neo8's they're kinda modeled after. Except it doesn't have that wicked peak at 15K, so bonus for it!!!
  • edited August 2019
    I hate using the router to rebate odd shaped drivers.  A little careless router work booger'd up one of my enclosures.  I have way too much time and effort invested in these things to just scrap them.  I'm going to fix them then use a conventional round frame driver for the midrange instead of these planars.  I'll save the planars for a future project, but they will be rear mounted to a removable baffle next time.
    jholtz
  • It would be nice if suppliers would sent a 1/4" plastic cut out template with the drivers for flush mounting.
  • For my C-cake build I had Mike CNC me two baffle pieces for the AMT3-4, saved me a ton of time, and of course they were perfect.
     John H
  • Yeah.  I should have reached out to Mike.  As it stands, I feel like I've taken so many steps backwards :(

    Not enough time to finish these before the Meniscus event.  Hopefully in time for Iowa.
  • any updates on these? Looks like you switched drivers, what did you choose and how did it work out?
  • That project is on the back burner right now.  I switched from the planar mids to Tang Band W4-1320SIF bamboo cones.
  • edited October 2019
    After listening to so many truly great sounding speakers in Iowa this past weekend, I drove home inspired to get as many enclosures as I can finished before the snow flies.  Then I can spend the cold months measuring, designing, voicing and enjoying.  This project is the first one I plan to complete.  Tonight I will give them their final light sanding.  Hopefully have the enclosures completely finished this weekend.
    BrannigansLawani_101Turn24thtryS7910kennyk
  • Finished the final sanding last night.  Tonight I did a bit of color matching on wood putty that fills my router tearout goofs.  Can't wait to start measurements and crossover design (my favorite parts).
  • Your on a building spree dude!
  • I'm crazy like that.
  • You crazy like more than that.
    PWRRYDJasonP
  • edited October 2019
    I applied the first coat of the 1:1:1 ratio of boiled linseed oil, turpentine, and gloss poly after work tonight.  Unfortunately the temperature is dropping quickly so I had to close the garage door and fire up the garage furnace.  That turpentine flat out stinks!  My wife isn't very happy with me right now   :s
  • A few pics:







    hifiside4thtry6thplanetTurn2S7910ThumperTomkennyk
  • Looks great...! I need to make a bass bin that I can use with multiple speakers
  • Ditto.  And now you're into the fun part, measurements and xover design.  
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